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Si1verR0se said: Danpmss said: This episode was fucking amazing, holy shit. Catharsis at its finest, slow burn af build up so far, and we exploded in epic proportions in this episode! Eua just changing scenarios and giving them powers as the fight progressed, I must agree with her, this was GREAT ENTERTAINMENT! So that's where all the REAL budget went after all. We got a fucking Dragon Ball Z battle in Higurashi, this was way more fun than it has any right to be. The one thing I hate in this ep is that it ends lol Now THIS is my bombastic Ryukishi "bullshit but fantastic" action packed finale I know and love from WTC climaxes. It makes sense in context (quite literal godlike powers at play), but I rather not consider it at all haha Brutally epic battle shounen episode, likely the best showdown I've seen in this season somehow, and it's not even the genre for that. My enjoyment alone made this 5/5 to me. Let the finale be just as awesome please. Still licking Ryukishi's boots as always, I see. Mind tell me why when Rika cut Satoko's throat with sword shard Satoko didn't die? Or why both Satoko and Rika didn't even care when they start jumping across the fragments right in the middle of fight? Or why Keichi, Rena and Mion never did anything?(yeah, let's say that in the classroom they were shocked COPIUM, but wtf was on Watanagashi?) Also Satoko suddenly have a strenght of a Hulk to throw big fucking drm easily. Or why there was such a strong emphasis on Keichi, Rena, Mion and Shion in both opening and Sotsu cover, but so far they did NOTHING AT ALL? Why the fuck Rika suddenly got into the refrigerator? Wtf was all that DBZ nonsense? Come on, tell me, oh great genius that see the depth in this masterpieaceofshit That's literally how every single Ryukishi climax go in WTC. Bombastic shounen battle bullshit that makes sense within a very specific context (involving supernatural stuff), if you dislike it, you might as well hate every single finale he wrote. Too bad that, following the pattern, the final episode must be more grounded in reality, this was top entertainment even compared to the batshit crazy stuff in Umineko. |
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| I'm not sure if I should like it, or hate it. Imagine if they just talked before all this. Just had a freaking talk, and we would've avoided this mess. Kinda funny when they recreated scenes from earlier seasons - but still, I'm at a loss for words. |
| The one way I never expected this series to end was in a magical girl fight and yet here we are. God knows what episode 15 has in store for us. |
Danpmss said: Si1verR0se said: Still licking Ryukishi's boots as always, I see. Mind tell me why when Rika cut Satoko's throat with sword shard Satoko didn't die? Or why both Satoko and Rika didn't even care when they start jumping across the fragments right in the middle of fight? Or why Keichi, Rena and Mion never did anything?(yeah, let's say that in the classroom they were shocked COPIUM, but wtf was on Watanagashi?) Also Satoko suddenly have a strenght of a Hulk to throw big fucking drm easily. Or why there was such a strong emphasis on Keichi, Rena, Mion and Shion in both opening and Sotsu cover, but so far they did NOTHING AT ALL? Why the fuck Rika suddenly got into the refrigerator? Wtf was all that DBZ nonsense? Come on, tell me, oh great genius that see the depth in this masterpieaceofshit That's literally how every single Ryukishi climax go in WTC. Bombastic shounen battle bullshit that makes sense within a very specific context (involving supernatural stuff), if you dislike it, you might as well hate every single finale he wrote. Too bad, following the pattern, the final episode must be more grounded in reality, this was top entertainment even compared to the batshit crazy stuff in Umineko. They make sense within their own rules though. You didnt see people firing lasers in Rose gun days. Ill just add that when this was leaked in detail, right down to magic costumes. Literally no one believed it because of how bullshit it was. I was wrong to doubt you Leaker Sama. You warned us. |
Chargecoulomb said: Danpmss said: That's literally how every single Ryukishi climax go in WTC. Bombastic shounen battle bullshit that makes sense within a very specific context (involving supernatural stuff), if you dislike it, you might as well hate every single finale he wrote. Too bad, following the pattern, the final episode must be more grounded in reality, this was top entertainment even compared to the batshit crazy stuff in Umineko. They make sense within their own rules though. You didnt see people firing lasers in Rose gun days. Ill just add that when this was leaked. Literally no one believed it because of how bullshit it was. I was wrong to doubt you Leaker Sama. This also makes sense within context though? There are literal reality manipulating Goddesses giving them powers from a metaworld and incorporating them in their clothes, for heaven's sake. |
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| Oh it was even worse than I thought lol. Danpmss said: Yes I clearly remember the supernatural, bombastic, DBZ fights in Higurashi.Si1verR0se said: Still licking Ryukishi's boots as always, I see. Mind tell me why when Rika cut Satoko's throat with sword shard Satoko didn't die? Or why both Satoko and Rika didn't even care when they start jumping across the fragments right in the middle of fight? Or why Keichi, Rena and Mion never did anything?(yeah, let's say that in the classroom they were shocked COPIUM, but wtf was on Watanagashi?) Also Satoko suddenly have a strenght of a Hulk to throw big fucking drm easily. Or why there was such a strong emphasis on Keichi, Rena, Mion and Shion in both opening and Sotsu cover, but so far they did NOTHING AT ALL? Why the fuck Rika suddenly got into the refrigerator? Wtf was all that DBZ nonsense? Come on, tell me, oh great genius that see the depth in this masterpieaceofshit That's literally how every single Ryukishi climax go in WTC. Bombastic shounen battle bullshit that makes sense within a very specific context (involving supernatural stuff), if you dislike it, you might as well hate every single finale he wrote. Too bad that, following the pattern, the final episode must be more grounded in reality, this was top entertainment even compared to the batshit crazy stuff in Umineko. You know, comparing Home Alone bullshit to this isnt even stretching things anymore. You break the fabric of fucking reality. |
Danpmss said: Chargecoulomb said: They make sense within their own rules though. You didnt see people firing lasers in Rose gun days. Ill just add that when this was leaked. Literally no one believed it because of how bullshit it was. I was wrong to doubt you Leaker Sama. This also makes sense within context though? There are literal reality manipulating Goddesses giving them powers from a metaworld and incorporating them in their clothes, for heaven's sake. Sure you could say that, but does it fit in with Higurashi? Kira also had a inuniverse reason for the magical girl stuff. Didnt make it any more less stupid right? |
| of all the possibilities i was hoping for.. this was the "i never even thought it would come to like this" route... . Not an avid Higurashi watcher infact this is my first anime in the series.. so i have no idea if this is supposed to be normal.. but holy hell.. . anyways.. first half was brutal.. Satoko freaking massacring Rika with variety of things like a burning Pan.. and it was freaking painful to imagine that.. |
Chargecoulomb said: Danpmss said: This also makes sense within context though? There are literal reality manipulating Goddesses giving them powers from a metaworld and incorporating them in their clothes, for heaven's sake. Sure you could say that, but does it fit in with Higurashi? Kira also had a inuniverse reason for the magical girl stuff. Didnt make it any more less stupid right? At least Kira was intentional comedy. This... I don't even know |
ssjokg said: Oh it was even worse than I thought lol. Danpmss said: Yes I clearly remember the supernatural, bombastic, DBZ fights in Higurashi.That's literally how every single Ryukishi climax go in WTC. Bombastic shounen battle bullshit that makes sense within a very specific context (involving supernatural stuff), if you dislike it, you might as well hate every single finale he wrote. Too bad that, following the pattern, the final episode must be more grounded in reality, this was top entertainment even compared to the batshit crazy stuff in Umineko. You know, comparing Home Alone bullshit to this isnt even stretching things anymore. You break the fabric of fucking reality. Hanyuu literally ex machina-ed her way through Matsuribayashi transferring years of martial arts experience from another world from Hima Akasaka to Matsuri Akasaka for him to proceed kicking ass, with no foreshadowing whatsoever, gain ZA WARUDO powers channeling with Rika with no foreshadowing whatsoever in order for her to avoid Takano's gunshooting. This was just an Umineko level bullshit shounen battle finale. It makes sense in the context, and it's awesome BECAUSE it is pure undistilled shounen battle goodness. If you dislike this, I guess you hated Umi EP8 A LOT lol The Ryukishi finales are always bombastic absurd fun that usually go way over-the-top to their standards, no matter how grounded. If you disliked it, your loss, this was the most Ryukishi this show went in the whole run. |
DanpmssSep 23, 2021 9:54 AM
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| there are no words to describe how much i hated this. if you like it, good for you, you're entitled to your opinion, but this is honestly so bad it's making me dislike higurashi as a whole |
Chargecoulomb said: Danpmss said: This also makes sense within context though? There are literal reality manipulating Goddesses giving them powers from a metaworld and incorporating them in their clothes, for heaven's sake. Sure you could say that, but does it fit in with Higurashi? Kira also had a inuniverse reason for the magical girl stuff. Didnt make it any more less stupid right? It fits Higurashi quite well, Tsumihoroboshi tribute is there to reminds us how much he likes his hot blooded shounen climaxes no matter how ridiculous they may go (like K1 with a bat battling Rena with a cleaver on the school's roof after a sequence of serious business grounded arcs) LOL With what Newgurashi established for itself so far, the escalation is quite proportional. Leaning more towards Umineko in this case. |
DanpmssSep 23, 2021 9:56 AM
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| Okay guys, can we just pretend that higurashi Gou/Sotsu doesn't exist now? I never thought I would miss Studio deen. |
Danpmss said: ssjokg said: Oh it was even worse than I thought lol. Yes I clearly remember the supernatural, bombastic, DBZ fights in Higurashi. You know, comparing Home Alone bullshit to this isnt even stretching things anymore. You break the fabric of fucking reality. Hanyuu literally ex machina-ed her way through Matsuribayashi transferring years of martial arts experience from another world from Hima Akasaka to Matsuri Akasaka for him to proceed kicking ass, with no foreshadowing whatsoever, gain ZA WARUDO powers channeling with Rika with no foreshadowing whatsoever in order for her to avoid Takano's gunshotting. This was just an Umineko level bullshit shounen battle finale. It makes sense in the context, and it's awesome BECAUSE it is pure undistilled shounen battle goodness. If you dislike this, I guess you hated Umi EP8 A LOT lol The Ryukishi finales are always bombastic absurd fun that usually go way over-the-top to their standards, no matter how grounded. If you disliked it, your loss, this was the most Ryukishi this show went in the whole run. Youre missing thw point Ep 8s big Battles come with a huge buildup to said Battle. Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
KuniiSep 23, 2021 2:08 PM
| I'd actually been mostly enjoying Sotsu up to this point. Sure, the 'recap from Satoko's POV' arcs probably could have been cut down, but it was interesting to see how she pulled everything off. This, though... what the fuck did I just watch. The way Rika found out that Satoko was the mastermind behind everything was completely dissatisfying - perhaps it would've been better if she slowly put together some clues left behind over previous loops until she realised what was going on? The reveal as it was here was awful - Satoko could have totally explained it away if she didn't just go for the nuclear option and start shooting. She's been established to be intelligent, so this sudden-onset stupidity just makes no sense. I could almost excuse the whole battle between loops section, too. I don't mind it in concept - Rika's first couple of deaths after the reveal were decent, and there were some interesting transitions between loops, but it was mostly nonsensical, especially given that both seemingly had superhuman strength. I'm not even talking about the drum - the scene where Satoko sent Rika flying by hitting her with her backpack was equally ludicrous. The worst has to be when they went full DBZ, flew around fighting in their Super Satoko forms, and Rika re-enacted the fridge scene from Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Who thought this was a good idea? |
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| This just went from mission impossible to mission in-faking-sanity. What am I even watching anymore lol Brutal death scenes in the beginning. |
Danpmss said: ssjokg said: Oh it was even worse than I thought lol. Yes I clearly remember the supernatural, bombastic, DBZ fights in Higurashi. You know, comparing Home Alone bullshit to this isnt even stretching things anymore. You break the fabric of fucking reality. Hanyuu literally ex machina-ed her way through Matsuribayashi transferring years of martial arts experience from another world from Hima Akasaka to Matsuri Akasaka for him to proceed kicking ass, with no foreshadowing whatsoever, gain ZA WARUDO powers channeling with Rika with no foreshadowing whatsoever in order for her to avoid Takano's gunshooting. This was just an Umineko level bullshit shounen battle finale. It makes sense in the context, and it's awesome BECAUSE it is pure undistilled shounen battle goodness. If you dislike this, I guess you hated Umi EP8 A LOT lol The Ryukishi finales are always bombastic absurd fun that usually go way over-the-top to their standards, no matter how grounded. If you disliked it, your loss, this was the most Ryukishi this show went in the whole run. You still compare some magic that all that did was make a police officer a strong martial artist and Hanyuu who is the reason why Rika loops using a time related power for a moment to literal DBZ stuff. If Hanyuu and Rika could do that all along why didnt they do it in the original? Umineko and whatever Ciconia has have nothing to do with Higurashi. You are either on some strong copium right now or hard trolling. |
| This episode is wild, featuring a bloody Mohou Shoujo-style fight, but I like part Rika turns against Satoko after knowing all the truth. I would probably recommend this anime with Mahou Shoujo anime I've watched. Maybe, now there should be a fantasy genre. xD |
ssjokg said: Danpmss said: Hanyuu literally ex machina-ed her way through Matsuribayashi transferring years of martial arts experience from another world from Hima Akasaka to Matsuri Akasaka for him to proceed kicking ass, with no foreshadowing whatsoever, gain ZA WARUDO powers channeling with Rika with no foreshadowing whatsoever in order for her to avoid Takano's gunshooting. This was just an Umineko level bullshit shounen battle finale. It makes sense in the context, and it's awesome BECAUSE it is pure undistilled shounen battle goodness. If you dislike this, I guess you hated Umi EP8 A LOT lol The Ryukishi finales are always bombastic absurd fun that usually go way over-the-top to their standards, no matter how grounded. If you disliked it, your loss, this was the most Ryukishi this show went in the whole run. You still compare some magic that all that did was make a police officer a strong martial artist and Hanyuu who is the reason why Rika loops using a time related power for a moment to literal DBZ stuff. If Hanyuu and Rika could do that all along why didnt they do it in the original? Umineko and whatever Ciconia has have nothing to do with Higurashi. You are either on some strong copium right now or hard trolling. I posted about Umineko ep8 but Higus final Club vs Yamainu scene came after a series of smaller battles and skirmishes. - Akasaka - Tomitake - Irie - Kasai Shion All have smaller conflicts before the deciding conflict in played out. If Higus final battle came out of nowhere it would be strange. If Higus final battle was the first scene in Matsuribayashi and Also involved Hanyuu giving Rika and Tamura or someone else giving Takano magic powers to duke it out. Then it would be what we got in Sotsu. |
Chargecoulomb said: Danpmss said: Hanyuu literally ex machina-ed her way through Matsuribayashi transferring years of martial arts experience from another world from Hima Akasaka to Matsuri Akasaka for him to proceed kicking ass, with no foreshadowing whatsoever, gain ZA WARUDO powers channeling with Rika with no foreshadowing whatsoever in order for her to avoid Takano's gunshotting. This was just an Umineko level bullshit shounen battle finale. It makes sense in the context, and it's awesome BECAUSE it is pure undistilled shounen battle goodness. If you dislike this, I guess you hated Umi EP8 A LOT lol The Ryukishi finales are always bombastic absurd fun that usually go way over-the-top to their standards, no matter how grounded. If you disliked it, your loss, this was the most Ryukishi this show went in the whole run. Youre missing thw point Ep 8s big Battles come with a huge buildup to said Battle. I'm not missing the point, ever since Gou Ep 20 this has been escalating more and more in over the top crazyness and supernatural elements. Sostsu's ENTIRETY was a buildup for this escalation. Satoko is going full witch side and doing some mad shit that progressively escalated in brutality and absurdness (even going ultra instinct avoiding katana chops and gunning down people at ease like an overpowered shounen protagonist would). This episode has all this over-the top-ness escalate from there to it's max like the usual. Satoko and Rika literally getting powers from the both Goddesses watching from the other dimension and beating the shit out of each other. Where do you not see a buildup in here, exactly? This season was the most supernatural focused Higurashi has ever got so far, from the start even. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
KuniiSep 23, 2021 2:10 PM
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Danpmss said: Chargecoulomb said: Youre missing thw point Ep 8s big Battles come with a huge buildup to said Battle. I'm not missing the point, ever since Gou Ep 20 this has been escalating more and more in over the top crazyness and supernatural elements. Sostsu's ENTIRETY was a buildup for this escalation. Satoko is going full witch side and doing some mad shit that progressively escalated in brutality and absurdness (even going ultra instinct avoiding katana chops and gunning down people at ease like an overpowered shounen protagonist would). This episode has all this over-the top-ness escalate from there to it's max like the usual. Satoko and Rika literally getting powers from the both Goddesses watching from the other dimension and beating the shit out of each other. Where do you not see a buildup in here, exactly? This season was the most supernatural focused Higurashi has ever got so far, from the start even. Eua commentating. Satoko killing her regrets. Hanyuu getting oneshot. Is that what you mean by supernatural? Where is the supernatural buildup? Where is the conflict progression. Keep in mind for all the previous of eps of Sotsu we got explanations for Gou. This is Sotsus first real ep. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
KuniiSep 23, 2021 2:11 PM
| absolute dogshit. this whole series |
Danpmss said: And you still dont realize that many people dont like that.This season was the most supernatural focused Higurashi has ever got so far, from the start even. |
ssjokg said: Danpmss said: Hanyuu literally ex machina-ed her way through Matsuribayashi transferring years of martial arts experience from another world from Hima Akasaka to Matsuri Akasaka for him to proceed kicking ass, with no foreshadowing whatsoever, gain ZA WARUDO powers channeling with Rika with no foreshadowing whatsoever in order for her to avoid Takano's gunshooting. This was just an Umineko level bullshit shounen battle finale. It makes sense in the context, and it's awesome BECAUSE it is pure undistilled shounen battle goodness. If you dislike this, I guess you hated Umi EP8 A LOT lol The Ryukishi finales are always bombastic absurd fun that usually go way over-the-top to their standards, no matter how grounded. If you disliked it, your loss, this was the most Ryukishi this show went in the whole run. You still compare some magic that all that did was make a police officer a strong martial artist and Hanyuu who is the reason why Rika loops using a time related power for a moment to literal DBZ stuff. If Hanyuu and Rika could do that all along why didnt they do it in the original? Umineko and whatever Ciconia has have nothing to do with Higurashi. You are either on some strong copium right now or hard trolling. You are ignoring the part that this season's standards for escalation were established from the start. You are the one coping lol Ryukishi escalates from just how much something is grounded or not, to the over-the-top craze fest they can become later in the climax. Higurashi? Tsumi has a battle shounen roof battle out of nowhere after 5 serious business grounded arc that makes sense in context, and went full deus ex machina craziness with supernatural powers by the end, making sense in context (it's a literal Goddess). Umineko? From the start has crazy magic bullshit going on, which makes sense in context (subverted magic realism). In the end escalated all that in the most shounen battle way possible (still making sense in context). Sotsugyou? From the start has all the bullshit from Matsuribayashi finale in mind and rolls with it as a premise (also making sense in context, as crazy hyperdimensional Goddesses can go anyway). Much more supernatural stuff in general even from episode 2 of Gou. Finale? After building up for several episodes a Witch existence going over the top like all hell, it escalates the already established crazy stuff into even crazier stuff. RGD even, all grounded, and goes over-the-top realistic by the final climaxes. You must be blind not to see the pattern he usually goes with. ----------------------------------------------------------- Chargecoulomb said: Eua commentating. Satoko killing her regrets. Hanyuu getting oneshot. Is that what you mean by supernatural? Where is the supernatural buildup? Where is the conflict progression. Keep in mind for all the previous of eps of Sotsu we got explanations for Gou. This is Sotsus first real ep. What I just wrote above. |
DanpmssSep 23, 2021 10:20 AM
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| Is this it? Have we jumped the shark? The fuck was this episode? I waited 13 episodes to see fucking magical shoujo dbz crap? Next episode will be power of love triumph even murdering me million times? I knew Ryukishi was one hit wonder. Everything after original Higurashi was just pile of trash |
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Danpmss said: ssjokg said: You still compare some magic that all that did was make a police officer a strong martial artist and Hanyuu who is the reason why Rika loops using a time related power for a moment to literal DBZ stuff. If Hanyuu and Rika could do that all along why didnt they do it in the original? Umineko and whatever Ciconia has have nothing to do with Higurashi. You are either on some strong copium right now or hard trolling. You are ignoring the part that this season's standards for escalation were established from the start. You are the one coping lol Ryukishi escalates from just how much something is grounded or not, to the over-the-top craze fest they can become later in the climax. Higurashi? Tsumi has a battle shounen roof battle out of nowhere after 6 serious business grounded arc that makes sense in context, and went full deus ex machina craziness with supernatural powers by the end, making sense in context (it's a literal Goddess). Umineko? From the start has crazy magic bullshit going on, which makes sense in context (subverted magic realism). In the end escalated all that in the most shounen battle way possible (still making sense in context). Sotsugyou? From the start has all the bullshit from Matsuribayashi finale in mind and rolls with it as a premise. Much more supernatural stuff in general even from episode 2 of Gou. Finale? After building up for several episodes a Witch existence going over the top like all hell, it escalates the already established crazy stuff into even crazier stuff. RGD even, all grounded, and goes over-the-top realistic by the end. You must be blind not to see the pattern he usually goes with. It would be great if you didnt bring up unrelated series with their own rules into this. And no, this isnt okay just because Ryuukishi fancies it to be in Higurashi. And nothing from what Satoko and Eua did can excuse this escalation. You do realize that your justification for this bullshit is "crazy stuff happens so crazy stuff is fine". The quality of the arguments to defend this series is proportional to the drop of quality with each passing episode. |
Danpmss said: ssjokg said: You still compare some magic that all that did was make a police officer a strong martial artist and Hanyuu who is the reason why Rika loops using a time related power for a moment to literal DBZ stuff. If Hanyuu and Rika could do that all along why didnt they do it in the original? Umineko and whatever Ciconia has have nothing to do with Higurashi. You are either on some strong copium right now or hard trolling. You are ignoring the part that this season's standards for escalation were established from the start. You are the one coping lol Ryukishi escalates from just how much something is grounded or not, to the over-the-top craze fest they can become later in the climax. Higurashi? Tsumi has a battle shounen roof battle out of nowhere after 5 serious business grounded arc that makes sense in context, and went full deus ex machina craziness with supernatural powers by the end, making sense in context (it's a literal Goddess). Umineko? From the start has crazy magic bullshit going on, which makes sense in context (subverted magic realism). In the end escalated all that in the most shounen battle way possible (still making sense in context). Sotsugyou? From the start has all the bullshit from Matsuribayashi finale in mind and rolls with it as a premise. Much more supernatural stuff in general even from episode 2 of Gou. Finale? After building up for several episodes a Witch existence going over the top like all hell, it escalates the already established crazy stuff into even crazier stuff. RGD even, all grounded, and goes over-the-top realistic by the end. You must be blind not to see the pattern he usually goes with. ----------------------------------------------------------- Chargecoulomb said: Eua commentating. Satoko killing her regrets. Hanyuu getting oneshot. Is that what you mean by supernatural? Where is the supernatural buildup? Where is the conflict progression. Keep in mind for all the previous of eps of Sotsu we got explanations for Gou. This is Sotsus first real ep. What I just wrote above. I keep repeating this. Tsumiboroshi - Aliens! - Bombs! - Rika holding an injection! - Rika fighting Rena! - Rena going full on tinfoil hat nut. - Mions injured! No buildup indeed mate. With how weird and macabe Tsumi was this is the perfect ending. Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
KuniiSep 23, 2021 2:14 PM
| This episode was so bad I felt genuine pity for R07. He used to be such a good writer. If his editor & best friend were still alive, he'd slap his face for writing this piece of garbage. Dragon Ball Satoko and Rika ffs. Have some dignity. |
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Chargecoulomb said: Danpmss said: You are ignoring the part that this season's standards for escalation were established from the start. You are the one coping lol Ryukishi escalates from just how much something is grounded or not, to the over-the-top craze fest they can become later in the climax. Higurashi? Tsumi has a battle shounen roof battle out of nowhere after 5 serious business grounded arc that makes sense in context, and went full deus ex machina craziness with supernatural powers by the end, making sense in context (it's a literal Goddess). Umineko? From the start has crazy magic bullshit going on, which makes sense in context (subverted magic realism). In the end escalated all that in the most shounen battle way possible (still making sense in context). Sotsugyou? From the start has all the bullshit from Matsuribayashi finale in mind and rolls with it as a premise. Much more supernatural stuff in general even from episode 2 of Gou. Finale? After building up for several episodes a Witch existence going over the top like all hell, it escalates the already established crazy stuff into even crazier stuff. RGD even, all grounded, and goes over-the-top realistic by the end. You must be blind not to see the pattern he usually goes with. ----------------------------------------------------------- What I just wrote above. I keep repeating this. Tsumiboroshi - Aliens! - Bombs! - Rika holding an injection! - Rika fighting Rena! - Rena going full on tinfoil hat nut. - Mions injured! No buildup indeed mate. With how weird and macabe Tsumi was this is the perfect ending. Look from where these start before going crazy with ideas during the final act. Tsumi was just an early minor example, as up to Meakashi, this was just a psychological thriller mystery (VN), and from Tsumi onwards alien talk and all kinds of supernatural craze start to escalate with the plot from nowhere, and by the time the bombastic finale that is Matsuribayashi, several things that literally escalated out of the blue happened. You are literally proving my point. This is Ryukishi 101 storytelling, he loves to escalate in his climaxes from an established grounded point the story followed so far in some of which are much more bonkers than the others). Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
KuniiSep 23, 2021 2:16 PM
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ssjokg said: Danpmss said: You are ignoring the part that this season's standards for escalation were established from the start. You are the one coping lol Ryukishi escalates from just how much something is grounded or not, to the over-the-top craze fest they can become later in the climax. Higurashi? Tsumi has a battle shounen roof battle out of nowhere after 6 serious business grounded arc that makes sense in context, and went full deus ex machina craziness with supernatural powers by the end, making sense in context (it's a literal Goddess). Umineko? From the start has crazy magic bullshit going on, which makes sense in context (subverted magic realism). In the end escalated all that in the most shounen battle way possible (still making sense in context). Sotsugyou? From the start has all the bullshit from Matsuribayashi finale in mind and rolls with it as a premise. Much more supernatural stuff in general even from episode 2 of Gou. Finale? After building up for several episodes a Witch existence going over the top like all hell, it escalates the already established crazy stuff into even crazier stuff. RGD even, all grounded, and goes over-the-top realistic by the end. You must be blind not to see the pattern he usually goes with. It would be great if you didnt bring up unrelated series with their own rules into this. And no, this isnt okay just because Ryuukishi fancies it to be in Higurashi. And nothing from what Satoko and Eua did can excuse this escalation. You do realize that your justification for this bullshit is "crazy stuff happens so crazy stuff is fine". The quality of the arguments to defend this series is proportional to the drop of quality with each passing episode. It's literally the fucking franchise's most consistent pattern LOL, super unrelated to all entries that have the same thing, huh? LMAO Even other stories that aren't WTC from him have that same sort of escalation. You can't counter what I just said for crap. This is hilarious. |
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Danpmss said: Chargecoulomb said: I keep repeating this. Tsumiboroshi - Aliens! - Bombs! - Rika holding an injection! - Rika fighting Rena! - Rena going full on tinfoil hat nut. - Mions injured! No buildup indeed mate. With how weird and macabe Tsumi was this is the perfect ending. Look from where these start before going crazy with ideas during the final act. Tsumi was just an early minor example, as up to Meakashi, this was just a psychological thriller mystery (VN), and from Tsumi onwards alien talk and all kinds of supernatural craze start to escalate with the plot from nowhere, and by the time the bombastic finale that is Matsuribayashi, several things that literally escalated out of the blue happened. You are literally proving my point. This is Ryukishi 101 storytelling, he loves to escalate in his climaxes from the an established grounded point the story followed so far in. Theyre not the same though. Tsumiboroshis alien scaling is pretty fine. Rena believing it based on Takanos research (which is Kataribanashi-hen if you dont know.) K1 sees Rena going down the haywire. Ooshi gets made fun of for believing this nonsense. This is how it happens. Tsumiboroshi is an amazing example of how to drag a story into the macabe. I dont know if you have read the VN? But Renas and K1s battle isnt as epic or world shattering as the music makes it look. Seriously now. Its two people swinging a cleaver and a bat at each other. Are you seriously comparing Tsumis battle to this? Escalation happened in Tsumi. It didnt in Sotsu, you accepted this point. I think we"re done here. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
KuniiSep 23, 2021 2:16 PM
| I'm honestly glad I can genuinely enjoy this episode, what a fucking blast it was. I just love some batshit stupid popcorn entertainment. But at the same time I understand why many people hate it, and I'm sorry for what you had to experience with the Newgurashi as a whole, no cap |
| This continues to be a hilarious shitfest for the ages. At least Rika is trying to retaliate now, which can be considered "decent", I guess. Whelp one more episode remaining. I hope this ridiculous charade finally ends next week |
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Danpmss said: ssjokg said: It would be great if you didnt bring up unrelated series with their own rules into this. And no, this isnt okay just because Ryuukishi fancies it to be in Higurashi. And nothing from what Satoko and Eua did can excuse this escalation. You do realize that your justification for this bullshit is "crazy stuff happens so crazy stuff is fine". The quality of the arguments to defend this series is proportional to the drop of quality with each passing episode. It's literally the fucking franchise's most consistent pattern LOL, super unrelated to all entries that have the same thing, huh? LMAO Even other stories that aren't WTC from him have that same sort of escalation. You can't counter what I just said for crap. This is hilarious. I dont know why you think that "escalation" justifies turning Higurashi into a battle shounen with magical girls power ups where nothing really matters and the characters literally dont evolve at all mentally. Also what escalation? This show has been the same since Gou eps21. There is no escalation whatsoever, not that it would justify anything. Yes it is hilarious that you still think this is good writing just because it follows his pattern(not that it does). |
| What in the fuck did I just watch? I can only assume this is some Umineko style telling of events or else I don't know what. Regardless the fight made no sense with them flipping through worlds in the middle of attacks even if Rika had the edge and then of course the struggle for the sword at the end. Kinda bullshit how Satoko's neck wound healed instantly after Rika cuts her with the sword shard because of a world transition but I'm sure they can argue that Eua's omnipotent magic powers are making all of this possible and therefore it's all logical and makes perfect sense. Overall this was somewhat entertaining to watch but at the end of the day pretty stupid. Predictions, probably still the power of friendship with Keiichi and the others getting involved is gonna somehow asspull a happy ending out of this. Either that or they'll leave it open for another season, announced or unannounced. Kinda like Madoka Rebellion. |
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